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- Subject: Re: GEMDOS re-entrancy
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 1:05:44 CDT
- From: Juergen Lock <nox@jelal.north.de>
- In-Reply-To: <m0q7cvW-0000nrC@sdf.lonestar.org>; from "Evan K. Langlois" at May 28, 94 11:56 pm
- Message-Id: <9406012305.AA00242@jelal.north.de>
-
- Evan K. Langlois writes:
-
- > ========================================================================
- > but this does not mean you cannot sleep for disk IO, like it also
- > doesn't mean my editor has to waste CPU time polling the tty for the
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > Disk IO seems like it may be difficult, but certainly possible. I don't
- > think yor editor should poll for IO at all.
-
- oops :) what i was trying to say is my editor does of course not poll...
- and if it works for tty IO then why should it be impossible for DMA disk IO.
-
- > If you have an editor that
- > is doing this, throw it away!! And editor doesn't need to do anything
- > but wait for a keypress, so it should use blocking IO, even under normal
- > TOS.
-
- (well on vanilla TOS you still need to poll to distinguish ESC
- sequences from a single ESC etc. because there is no alarm(), but
- anyway...)
-
- > My terminal uses blocking IO by using tfork() to handle input and
- > output as separate threads.
-
- btw which one is that? might interest miff to get cu running... :)
- >
- > ========================================================================
- > sure if you don't want to port a real BSDfs, linux ext2 or something
- > instead... i.e. why not make something _better_ than V2? :)
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > I have the source to HPFS filesystem used by OS/2. Anyone want it? It
- > doesn't look like it would be TOO difficult to port. Its kinda half DOS
- > with a Minix internal or something.
-
- yes, half-DOS (with some BSD internals)... is that the one that doesn't
- even have real file modes? i would rather take the real thing!
-
- > There are some things that would have
- > to be changed though, for example, OS/2 allows you to set the file size when
- > you open/create a file - that way the filesystem can allocate exactly enough
- > space for it without fragmenting the disk,
-
- well BSDfs mostly takes care of fragmentation problems itself...
- hmm :) anyone would like to read this? (~20K gzip'd...)
-
-
- A Fast File System for UNIX*
-
-
- Marshall Kirk McKusick, William N. Joy|✓-,
- Samuel J. Leffler|✓=, Robert S. Fabry
-
- Computer Systems Research Group
- Computer Science Division
- Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
- University of California, Berkeley
- Berkeley, CA 94720
-
-
- ABSTRACT
-
- A reimplementation of the UNIX file system is
- described. The reimplementation provides substan-
- tially higher throughput rates by using more flex-
- ible allocation policies that allow better local-
- ity of reference and can be adapted to a wide
- range of peripheral and processor characteristics.
- The new file system clusters data that is sequen-
- tially accessed and provides two block sizes to
- allow fast access to large files while not wasting
- large amounts of space for small files. File
- access rates of up to ten times faster than the
- traditional UNIX file system are experienced.
- Long needed enhancements to the programmers'
- interface are discussed. These include a mechan-
- ism to place advisory locks on files, extensions
- of the name space across file systems, the ability
- to use long file names, and provisions for admin-
- istrative control of resource usage.
-
-
- Revised February 18, 1984
-
- _________________________
- * UNIX is a trademark of Bell Laboratories.
- |✓- William N. Joy is currently employed by: Sun
- Microsystems, Inc, 2550 Garcia Avenue, Mountain View,
- CA 94043
- |✓= Samuel J. Leffler is currently employed by:
- Lucasfilm Ltd., PO Box 2009, San Rafael, CA 94912
- This work was done under grants from the National
- Science Foundation under grant MCS80-05144, and the
- Defense Advance Research Projects Agency (DoD) under
- ARPA Order No. 4031 monitored by Naval Electronic
- System Command under Contract No. N00039-82-C-0235.
- ...
-
- > and it would really help with
- > filesystems like ramfs .. which needs to reallocate RAM constantly.
-
- and for ramfs, couldn't you just lseek (size) and write something
- when this is a problem?
-
- > ========================================================================
- > hmm Tgetdate/time is called quite often, MiNT should better keep the
- > time itself...
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > Keep time? How? Through the system tick? Isn't it easier to jst read
- > the time from the keyboard clock? I would think that would be more
- > accurate. Does this slow down MiNT?
-
- AFAIK GEMDOS uses the etv_timer interrupt itself... reading the IKBD
- clock every time would be slow because it essentially does a blocking
- ACIA write and read for a few bytes @ 7800 bps. is the IKBD's clock
- more accurate than the 2.4576 MHz the 200 Hz timer is clocked from?
- then maybe synchronize every x minutes... or leave that to the user
- who might have something even more accurate? (DCF77, ntp... :)
- >
- > ========================================================================
- > > As for DMA hard disk IO having problems with the BLiTTER,
- > > isn't there a semaphore for this? Yeah, here it is, flock @ 0x0000043E.W
- >
- > is that used for `real' SCSI IO (TT) and IDE too?
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > The entry for it just says to set that value to non-zero prior to accessing
- > the DMA registers to prevent the system or other processes from accessing
- > DMA concurrently.
-
- OK for ACSI/FDC, but is this set for the TT's SCSI port for and IDE
- disks too? anyone knows??
-
- > ========================================================================
- > ACSI/FDC is a bit on the ST 68881... (i'd have to look it up but i guess
- > claus knows these already :)
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > Nope, thats the FPU and most STs don't have one. Would be the MFP.
-
- yup 68901, remembered the wrong number...
-
- > #5 I think.
-
- > ========================================================================
- > not more than ACSI disk if you write a new floppy driver. except
- > that it'll block its channel a bit longer probably, given floppies
- > access time and data rate... :)
- > ========================================================================
- >
- > Hmm .. lessee that's 11K/second. So, we might be able to pass the
- > test the Intel users thought up? The way they test for REAL multitasking
- > is being able to format a floppy in the background :-)
- >
- hmm actually i've done that already, answered some mail on ttyv2 while
- pumpup.prg was running on console... :) its just there are not many
- cycles left now with all the blocking/polling going on.
-
- cheers
- Juergen
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